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Fatal shooting on the Ohio State campus today
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Fatal shooting on the Ohio State campus today


Feb 12, 2019, 9:05 PM

Wicked world we live in

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And getting "wickeder" by the second.***


Feb 12, 2019, 9:20 PM



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More wicked than when a war killed 85 million people worldwide?


Feb 12, 2019, 9:36 PM

Or when there were plantations full of slaves?


The world has always been wicked

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Re: More wicked than when a war killed 85 million people worldwide?


Feb 12, 2019, 9:51 PM

what is that supposed to mean?

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That those type of comments are just


Feb 12, 2019, 9:58 PM

Parroted without any thought. "What is wrong with people today" "what is this world coming too?" Etc. as if violence and wickedness are new to the world

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Very true...


Feb 12, 2019, 10:04 PM

While the exact form of the wickedness may vary from time to time, there’s nothing new under the sun

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Re: More wicked than when a war killed 85 million people worldwide?


Feb 12, 2019, 10:03 PM [ in reply to More wicked than when a war killed 85 million people worldwide? ]

I don't recall any school shootings, mass killing in the work place or in the churches when I was growing up. We didn't lock our houses, we left the keys in the car and no one bothered the children, at least in my home town.

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Re: More wicked than when a war killed 85 million people worldwide?


Feb 12, 2019, 10:10 PM

Thank you sir. Great points. People today have become so numb to the violence they just cannot see how things have changed.

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Re: More wicked than when a war killed 85 million people worldwide?


Feb 12, 2019, 10:13 PM

no, violent crime is down and has been downward on a 40 year trend. Most of our fears are irrational. And quite possibly Joe21 forgot about that guy that climbed a tower at the University of Texas in 1966 and gunned down 18 people.

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Re: More wicked than when a war killed 85 million people worldwide?


Feb 13, 2019, 5:55 AM

I was stationed at Bergstrom AFB when the Texas tower shooting occurred. It was, indeed, awful.

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Regardless of the "trends", children now live


Feb 13, 2019, 9:26 AM [ in reply to Re: More wicked than when a war killed 85 million people worldwide? ]

in a world of lockdown and active shooter drills. All we had to do was hide under our desks in the event of a nuclear holocaust.

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Feb 13, 2019, 10:02 AM [ in reply to Re: More wicked than when a war killed 85 million people worldwide? ]

I believe Joe21 was a child way before the Texas Tower shootings.

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Feb 12, 2019, 10:12 PM [ in reply to Re: More wicked than when a war killed 85 million people worldwide? ]

That was my thinking also Joe. I don’t think comparing killings in a ‘war’ is the same as killings on a college campus, or church etc. Killings for power have been with us since the beginning of time. Meanness appears to be a very contagious illness..... without a cure I fear.

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Lynchings, on the other hand, were commonplace throughout the South***


Feb 12, 2019, 10:15 PM [ in reply to Re: More wicked than when a war killed 85 million people worldwide? ]

http://www.statehousereport.com/2015/02/12/164-lynched-in-jim-crow-s-c-report-says/

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Re: Lynchings, on the other hand, were commonplace throughout the South***


Feb 13, 2019, 10:22 AM

I do not make this statement to in any way defend the vile, indefensible history of lynching. I do however dispute that lynchings were "commonplace" The article you cite indicates the states with the highest frequency of lynching (Florida, Mississippi, & Arkansas) did so at a rate of one person lynched for every 200,000 people. The article said that 164 people were lynched in SC between 1877 & 1950. To contrast that per the Anderson Independent Mail, 180 people were killed in Anderson County in traffic accidents in the last 4 years. I wouldn't say that traffic deaths are "commonplace" in Anderson County even at that rate.
https://www.independentmail.com/story/news/2018/04/28/part-greenville-county-and-sc-top-highway-fatalities/867306001/

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"To hell with the best team winning, I want us to win!"- Frank Howard


facts have no place in this argument***


Feb 13, 2019, 11:46 AM



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Re: More wicked than when a war killed 85 million people worldwide?


Feb 12, 2019, 10:16 PM [ in reply to Re: More wicked than when a war killed 85 million people worldwide? ]

I remember the very same Joe. Just the thought of taking a gun to school would cause you to break out in a cold sweat, and cause your A$$ to start burning, and that was for just maybe a thought!!!

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I took a gun to school all the time back in HS


Feb 13, 2019, 8:26 AM

during hunting season. Some of us would go hunting before school started.

And had guns displayed in the back window of our trucks so everyone could SEE them.

Whatever happened to rear window gun racks??


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Unfortunately illegal now


Feb 13, 2019, 8:31 AM

Most of the gun racks I see nowadays are just carrying baseball bats.

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Snowflake Basher........Out


when I got my first beater pickup, it was my first purchase


Feb 13, 2019, 8:58 AM

a truck HAD to have a gun rack.

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people started breaking the glass and stealing guns so it


Feb 13, 2019, 11:44 AM [ in reply to I took a gun to school all the time back in HS ]

fell out of favor

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Feb 12, 2019, 10:25 PM [ in reply to Re: More wicked than when a war killed 85 million people worldwide? ]

You don't recall because the vast majority of things went unreported in the large scale media. Only so many things could fit in the paper.

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I was looking through a book at Barnes & Noble


Feb 12, 2019, 10:32 PM [ in reply to Re: More wicked than when a war killed 85 million people worldwide? ]

recently that had front page newspaper stories collected from 1850 to the present. In the 1960s-70s there were countless small articles that referenced things like "riot leaves 8 dead", every few weeks. I had never even heard of most of them. They just are forgotten now but they looked to be pretty commonplace.

I agree that random mass shootings are something that have increased since 1999 (Columbine) but overall crime rates are down (things like muggings and such). Violence changes form through the years, but it never goes away entirely.

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Re: More wicked than when a war killed 85 million people worldwide?


Feb 12, 2019, 11:31 PM [ in reply to More wicked than when a war killed 85 million people worldwide? ]

What war killed 85 Million people (http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/highest-death-toll-from-wars/)?

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Re: More wicked than when a war killed 85 million people worldwide?


Feb 13, 2019, 4:18 AM

According to Google WWII

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WW2


Feb 13, 2019, 10:28 AM [ in reply to Re: More wicked than when a war killed 85 million people worldwide? ]

It is the high estimate. Taking into account the civilians killed in places like the sobiet union, China etc

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Feb 13, 2019, 10:35 AM [ in reply to Re: More wicked than when a war killed 85 million people worldwide? ]

Great question. The answer is .... the next one! That’s what many don’t seem to grasp!

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The next one will kill a billion.


Feb 13, 2019, 7:53 AM [ in reply to More wicked than when a war killed 85 million people worldwide? ]

And yes the world has always been wicked.

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Re: Fatal shooting on the Ohio State campus today


Feb 12, 2019, 10:13 PM

According to news reports, an Ohio State student was abducted by her ex boyfriend. She had previousky obtained a restraining order against him. It appears she died during a shootout between her ex and a Kentucky trooper. She was a young mother.

So very sad and tragic. Prayers for her family and friends and tOSU community.

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Feb 13, 2019, 1:29 AM

FWIW: The abduction was actually NOT at the main OSU campus, but miles away at one of their satellite campuses. Still terrible, but just clarifying.

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Re: Fatal shooting on the Ohio State campus today


Feb 13, 2019, 8:25 AM

Some of us have seen it before...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRE9vMBBe10

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The world has always been wicked.***


Feb 13, 2019, 10:40 AM



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