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Tell us how it’s done Judge Keller.
Apr 27, 2019, 2:46 AM
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Judge has an answer to this. Judge seems to always have an answer even if it means throwing another Clemson athletic program under the bus.
Judge Keller, please tell us how it really is. Guessing women’s basketball and Golf must be free game too in your attempt to protect and draw equivalency to any transgressions of any Clemson program whether it’s valid or not. Did Amanda Butler start a preschoolers prostitute ring??? Sounds like something you’d bite on if out there.
Don’t let facts get in the way Judge. You never do. Just keep plowing forward with any notion that protects this staff, and don’t let unproven facts about the university you purportedly support get in the way. Just plow ahead. Show us all how it’s done Judge. You’ll win hearts and minds.
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Re: Tell us how it’s done Judge Keller.
Apr 27, 2019, 6:42 AM
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He already has but your attention span was too short so you missed it.
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Re: Tell us how it’s done Judge Keller.
Apr 27, 2019, 6:51 AM
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Lol calling out Keller is a classy move. Teenagers shouldn't be allowed on the board before school.
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All-In [43585]
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What are you talking about?
Apr 27, 2019, 2:00 PM
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I have never thrown any of our programs under the bus.
My question surrounding the Steve Smith issue with Zion's recruitment was this: why are Clemson fans using that situation to criticize our entire basketball program, when we don't even have all of the facts yet? Consider:
1. What we know regarding Smith was in a series of tweets, not an official news release from the FBI or NCAA. 2. They may or may not have played the entire conversation involving Smith being recorded, but they probably did not. 3. We do not know the context of Smith's conversation. 4. We do not know if Smith offered any money to Zion, his family, etc. 5. If he did, we do not know how much it was or who might've been providing the money. 6. We do not know if any money changed hands. 7. We do not know if anyone else on our basketball staff knew about this.
I get it, everyone is mad at Smith. I am too. I think he should be fired. But the vitriol about this from most of our fans isn't because he might've been doing something illegal, or might put our basketball program in a bad position, but because he mentioned our football program.
Rather than waiting on all of the facts, Clemson fans (or supposed fans) are using this situation to call for Brad and the entire basketball program to be fired. They say that because it (whatever it actually is - we don't know yet) happened on his watch, he is responsible whether he knew about it or not, and should be fired. This is a huge overreaction by people who don't have all of the facts.
I simply asked the question: why are the same people who are rushing to judgment and assuming that our basketball coaches are guilty unless proven innocent, also the ones who steadfastly stood by our football players and coaches when illegal substances were found in three players' urine? Obviously the two situations aren't exactly the same, but the commonalities are that possible illegal activity occurred involving Clemson sports, and fans had limited information. The difference is that football coaches who were very likely not involved have gotten the benefit of the doubt (as they should), while Clemson basketball coaches who were also likely not involved did not get the benefit of the doubt. I have a huge problem with that.
Why can't our fans support all Clemson coaches and student-athletes, regardless of the sport, unless given a valid reason not to, simply because they represent our beloved university?
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Says the guy that continually makes backhanded
Apr 27, 2019, 2:03 PM
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comments in regards to our football program....
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All-In [43585]
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Are you a conspiracy theorist? Paranoid?
Apr 27, 2019, 2:10 PM
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I love our football program. I am very proud of the success we have had on and off the field. Dabo and his staff have done an excellent job. I don't have anything bad to say about it.
Do I think some of our fans prioritize football to a fault? Yes, but then again, football is our main sport and I understand not wanting to jeopardize its current position. It doesn't mean that we can't be great in both football and basketball though.
I have never made backhanded comments about our football program. I didn't create the ostarine situation, but I am certainly allowed to comment on it since it happened and was public information.
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Re: Are you a conspiracy theorist? Paranoid?***
Apr 27, 2019, 2:19 PM
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