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Something You Probably Did Not Want to Know
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Something You Probably Did Not Want to Know


May 11, 2019, 8:26 PM

Sometimes we get information we didn't ask for and wish no one would have told us. But, it's a shame to let info such as this remain hidden in a book, attic, barn or even in the outhouse.

Over the years I accumulated a lot of engineering books, books of tables, conversion factors, etc. Looking through one of them today I found the following and knew someone was probably seated on the edge of a chair awaiting this bit of facts. Some of you love your beer but are you up to snuff on ale and beer measurements and able to share this knowledge with other beer drinkers? Here we go.

9 Gallons = 1 Firkin
2 Firkins = 1 Kilderkin
2 Kilderkins = 1 Barrel
1-1/2 Barrels = 1 Hogshead
1-1/2 Hogsheads = 1 Puncheon
1-1/2 Puncheons = 1 Butt or Pipe

Now, go out there and talk firkins and puncheons with your buddies.

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Coots already know all about puncheons in the butt pipe.***


May 11, 2019, 8:31 PM



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Re: Coots already know all about puncheons in the butt pipe.***


May 12, 2019, 1:29 AM

Lmao +1

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That one got me good. ??***


May 12, 2019, 10:59 AM



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stop firkin around***


May 11, 2019, 8:33 PM



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Re: Something You Probably Did Not Want to Know


May 11, 2019, 8:33 PM

In life ... you truly can learn something new every day ;)

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Don't know where you come from Joe, but where I come from


May 11, 2019, 8:35 PM

if you talk about Firkin with someone, you're probably gonna get a Puncheon or maybe even a Pipe on your Butt.

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I’ve said more than one tough morning that I must’ve drank a butt


May 11, 2019, 8:42 PM

load of beer the night before. Now I at least have some reference. Thanks

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Re: I’ve said more than one tough morning that I must’ve drank a butt


May 11, 2019, 8:51 PM

Lol, Is it a butt load or a boat load?
I have never wanted a butt load!

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how much does Av fuel weigh per gallon? oil?***


May 11, 2019, 8:43 PM



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If she's a hollerer, she'll be a screamer.
If she's a screamer, she'll get you arrested.


Re: how much does Av fuel weigh per gallon? oil?***


May 11, 2019, 9:30 PM

Avgas is 6.01 lbs per gal

Avoil is 6.8 lbs per gal

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Re: Something You Probably Did Not Want to Know


May 11, 2019, 8:50 PM

Wow - Joe - so .... this info was hiding in your books ?? Wonder what else might be in there!!

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If people were as good as their obituary - and products were as good as advertised - this would truly be a wonderful world !!


Great stuff as usual Joe! A firkin is a lot of beer!***


May 11, 2019, 9:16 PM



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Just be aware that it's in Imperial gallons, not US gallons.


May 11, 2019, 9:21 PM

It'll really screw up your measurements for the party if you don't know the difference.

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It's pronounced "L Heff A" and it means "The Boss".


Re: Something You Probably Did Not Want to Know


May 11, 2019, 9:39 PM

I Think Joe needs to hold a life information seminar at the Esso Club for all of us...It could last two or three days, but the value would be priceless...Thanks Joe...we all appreciate your posts!!

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YeP Joseph..info I didn’t care to know...


May 11, 2019, 9:48 PM

but now that you’ve offered it free, and the guys have taken it to greater heights as they will, I’m glad you gave us the 1st opportunity to enjoy it.

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So it’s true that Lizzie Borden was an


May 11, 2019, 10:14 PM

...extreme alcoholic who, when arrested, realized she had kilderkin the night before.

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Re: Something You Probably Did Not Want to Know


May 12, 2019, 5:26 AM

That sounds very Irish or Scottish. Joe you always provide us with so much knowledge or insight.

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Do they sell 1/2 barrels?


May 12, 2019, 6:33 AM

Don't get me wrong, I could appreciate any good Hogshead. But wouldn't one just get to 2 barrels? And where does Keg fit in??

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forget all that...


May 12, 2019, 7:19 AM

what's the underside bottom of a wine bottle called, the part that dips way up and costs volume to the bottle (unbeknownst to most)? And why is it there?

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That's called a punt


May 12, 2019, 7:30 AM

Goes back to the days of when wine bottles were still made by glassblowers. Debatable whether it still serves a purpose.

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Re: Something You Probably Did Not Want to Know


May 12, 2019, 8:07 AM

Interesting stuff. I had to look up where these words came from..

Firkin – 9 gallons
Kilderkin – 18 gallons
Barrel – 36 gallons
Hogshead – 54 gallons
Butt – 108 gallons
Tun – 216 gallons

Firkin – It’s an old English term derived from a Middle Dutch word vierdekijn, which means fourth. It’s appropriate because a firkin is a fourth of a barrel in volume.

Kilderkin – Again an old English term derived from Dutch but it doesn’t mean half, it just means small cask, but it is a half barrel.

Hogshead – I wasn’t able to find the origin of the term but it was standardized as 54 gallons by an act of Parliament in 1423.

Butt – This size in wine is called a pipe, so when The Balvenie Portwood Finish 21 states it was finished in Port pipes, it means barrels of this size.

Tun – It sounds like ton because it shares the same origin though the latter refers only to mass/weight.

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