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So, for real. How high is the
May 19, 2019, 12:34 AM
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Ceiling for our program at this point?
This is absolutely amazing!
5***s like a meteor shower!!
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2 out of the last 3 championships, 55-4 through 4 years
May 19, 2019, 12:43 AM
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I'd say we're already at the ceiling. These recruiting classes are about keeping us there.
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Re: 2 out of the last 3 championships, 55-4 through 4 years
May 19, 2019, 5:59 AM
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No no my friend , we're about to blow the roof off and change CFB's old guard to include Clemson University as a blueblood when talked about many decades from now .
Ceiling can't hold what Dabo is doing with this program .
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For a rising high school freshman
May 19, 2019, 6:27 AM
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Clemson IS a blue-blood name. The Tigers have been ranked 70 consecutive weeks...with 60 consecutive weeks in the Top 10. Since 2011, only seven polls have not included Clemson...just 7.
The high school seniors graduating over the next few weeks have only known Clemson and Bama as annual CFP participants their entire high school careers. For the freshman, they were just starting to read well when 2011 got underway. They probably laugh when reading of the other 'blue-bloods', then realize most that are mentioned haven't won since BEFORE they were born. Right Miami? Oklahoma? Michigan? Notre Dame? What say you, Tennessee? Penn State? Oh...and Georgia...LOL!
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Re: For a rising high school freshman
May 19, 2019, 6:39 AM
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Agree !
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Re: For a rising high school freshman
May 19, 2019, 6:40 AM
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Not to mention in the poll era ( 1936-2019 ), we have as many or more national championships than....
Florida State ( 3 )
Florida ( 3 )
LSU ( 2 )
Auburn ( 2 )
Michigan ( 2 )
Penn State ( 2 )
Tennessee ( 2 )
Georgia ( 1 )
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Re: For a rising high school freshman
May 19, 2019, 7:12 AM
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I think we need to distinguish between blue-blood programs and blue-blood conferences. UF, UT (Tenn), UGA etc. are good programs in a blue blood conference. There are, IMO, two of them: SEC & B1G. (I'm talking about national perception and sports journalism cronyism here).
As for blue blood programs, the obvious ones historically are Bama, Oklahoma, OSU, Michigan, ND, and USC. Others--Nebraska, Miami, PSU, Texas are more debatable.
As to whether Clemson is blue blood, of course i think so, but the journalists aren't there yet, and I don't think they'll get there any time soon. We're a nouveau riche school in a so-so conference from their perspective. If we were truly blue-blood in their eyes, whether Dabo stayed or went back to Bama wouldn't be a news issue. And we don't help things by putting Bama penalties in Dabo's contract. And fretting over it on discussion boards. Makes us seem insecure.
Several years ago, there was talk about Saban going to Texas, but that was a flash in the pan, and I doubt Bama put any Texas penalties in his contract, though I don't really know. Did Urban Meyer have OSU language in his UF contract? Because he always said that OSU was his holy grail. Even if they did, they weren't ongoing news items.
What Clemson has in its favor for blue-blood inclusion are 1) length of tradition (FSU lacks this compared to Clemson); 2) historic persons/personalities (Heisman, Howard, Ford, Dabo). And if we keep beating down the blue bloods that we do play, like we have generally in the last few years.
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Re: 2 out of the last 3 championships, 55-4 through 4 years
May 19, 2019, 10:10 AM
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John Wooden won 10 out of 12 National Championships in NCAA Basketball with the PROGRAM he built. Dabo's personality reminds me the most of John Wooden. Clemson has a chance to build a dynasty in football much like UCLA did in basketball from 1963-1975.
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... beam from the Oculus...***
May 19, 2019, 4:54 AM
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Jordan Burch....
May 19, 2019, 10:23 AM
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....will he waste his talent at the UofSuC or be a champion at Clemson?
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