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Let this fella be a lesson to all of us on Tnet who are
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Let this fella be a lesson to all of us on Tnet who are


May 8, 2019, 2:33 PM

sometimes easily offended.....I hope you can read it.

Spud

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Something's wrong.


May 8, 2019, 2:43 PM

The image isn't sideways.


Great pic.

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There's something in these hills.


Re: Let this fella be a lesson to all of us on Tnet who are


May 8, 2019, 6:48 PM

It’s hard to believe that the majority of these people don’t care anything about veterans and openly speak out about how veterans don’t deserve more than illegals. (Oops) I just hurt someone else’s feelings spud! Sorry!

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Re: Let this fella be a lesson to all of us on Tnet who are


May 9, 2019, 8:14 AM

Give the illegals a break, let'em: squeeze every drop they can out of the entitlement programs, have no interest in learning english or assimilation, refuse to obey the law, be counted on the census & given the right to vote D w/o ID of course. Pay no mind to excessive pop growth?drain on the welfare state?high propensity for murder & rape-5x that of legals-why do we need borders anyway

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Re: Let this fella be a lesson to all of us on Tnet who are


May 9, 2019, 4:37 AM

I like that post in a way, so no offense, but what was the lesson? My step Dad was in a Japanese internment camp and was also a US Marine. He didn't even speak Japanese. My brother is half Japanese. Same Mom of course. I still don't exactly get the point of your post. His entire family was always offended the way they were treated. They lost everything.

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Re: Let this fella be a lesson to all of us on Tnet who are


May 9, 2019, 6:56 AM

The internment camps in the U.S was a knee jerk reaction post dating Pearl Harbor Carlsbad. Yes, the incarcerations was simply profiling, but in fairness 2403 Innocent Americans that was minding their own business was killed at Pearl Harbor by the same type of people that were being profiled. The attack on Pearl Harbor was fresh on people’s minds and we were still trying to get answers from it.
Was some of the Japanese Americans spies? Were the attacks on Pearl Harbor carried out by a independent Japanese militia, Japanese terrorist group or in this case a Japanese military order? There was too many unanswered questions at the time it happened.

In my opinion the internment camps was the correct decision. Could you imagine how many innocent Japanese Americans living in the states would have been killed, brutalized on a massive scale if they hadn’t been isolated? Remember, Pearl Harbor attacks just had occurred so anger and revenge was on every red blooded Americans minds.


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Re: Let this fella be a lesson to all of us on Tnet who are


May 9, 2019, 7:15 AM

Were....


I’m no grammar policeman but mercy...

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Re: Let this fella be a lesson to all of us on Tnet who are


May 9, 2019, 7:18 AM [ in reply to Re: Let this fella be a lesson to all of us on Tnet who are ]

I agree with some of your post, but I don't think it was really needed. I understand the paranoia and fear that sent them to camps. That said, they were angry too when Pearl Harbor was attacked. They were All-in as Americans. They understood to an extent why they were forced from their homes and sent out camps in basically the desert, but that doesn't change how they felt. They understood the magnitude of the war. Losing everything and being thrown in an internment camp and then getting out with basically nothing and having to build up what they spent 20 years building was tough on them though. They didn't look back with any fondness of those years. Not to mention all of the racists comments they had to hear for some years after the war. There was some bitterness, but they worked hard and made great lives. They just had start over. They weren't happy go lucky about it all though.

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May 9, 2019, 7:39 AM

I first realized how it affected Americans when I bought my mom a Toyota Camry, and she thought that was un-American and could not understand why I would do such a thing. My dad did not fight the Japanese, but fought on Omaha Beach 6/6/44 - D-Day, so they would probably have agreed with the internment camps.

Oddly enough, I own a Japanese motorcycle, truck, and a German car. When I think back about how my parents felt about that, I wonder myself why I do that. But my next car will be American, so there's that. Well, maybe. :)

I'm so glad Spud got someone to post a picture for him, so the rest of us do not have to turn sideways to view it. :) JK.

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Re: Let this fella be a lesson to all of us on Tnet who are


May 9, 2019, 4:36 PM [ in reply to Re: Let this fella be a lesson to all of us on Tnet who are ]

Maybe it's a lesson in forgiveness.

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May 9, 2019, 9:41 PM [ in reply to Re: Let this fella be a lesson to all of us on Tnet who are ]

I don't know how many of you are old enough to remember the situation at the beginning of WW2 with the attack on Pearl Harbor. Looking back, it is easy to condemn an act which all of us deplore. One has to understand the situation when such acts occur. There was not time to determine who was our friend and who was our enemy. There was a German dairyman in my home town who came from Germany and openly supported the Nazi Party. He was well though of until the war broke out but the safety of our country overrode all constitutional rights and privileges and he was interned. There were many German and Japanese who were still loyal to their motherland.

There was no time and no interest in trying to determine the loyalty of each individual, hence the interment camps. The main factor was to protect the United States, a mandate of our Constitution. There were pockets of German Bunds throughout the US, some openly threatened the US.

It's easy to condemn certain acts after the fact but wars are not a social event and sometimes drastic measures are required. We were subject to censorship, something we abhor, but it was a necessary act during the war. Our letters from Europe to our loved ones were censured. All we could say was "somewhere in Europe" and quite often, that's all we knew about our location.

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May 10, 2019, 4:04 AM

Exactly. Kind of a do or die situation so people were panicking. That said, this part was awful.

https://densho.org/sold-damaged-stolen-gone-japanese-american-property-loss-wwii/

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Interning Japanese American citizens was wrong then as it


May 9, 2019, 9:40 AM

would be to intern a class of American citizens of Iranian or any other ethnic decent today. You either believe in the Constitution and individual liberty or you don't. Roosevelt's Executive Order 9066 that ordered Japanese Americans into internment camps is one of the most shameful episodes of American history where a class of American citizens, had their Constitutional rights and individual liberty stripped from them without charge or trial. They were simply guilty of being of Japanese lineage at a time when a scared mob demanded they be locked away.

Individual liberty is at the very heart of the Constitution which is designed to protect the individual from angry and/or scared mobs of people. Roosevelt (who had Fabian Socialist tendencies) was all too willing to trash the Constitutional guarantees of individual rights when he signed Executive Order 9066.

At the the time, Roosevelt's abominable order was upheld by the six Supreme Court Justices whom Roosevelt had appointed to the high court in Korematsu v United States. The decision by the Supreme Court is a blight on the high court and is exhibit A of why judicial "precedent" is not sacrosanct and should not always prevail. Most recently Chief Justice Roberts stated in Trump v Hawaii: "The dissent’s reference to Korematsu, however, affords this Court the opportunity to make express what is already obvious: Korematsu was gravely wrong the day it was decided, has been overruled in the court of history, and—to be clear—has no place in law under the Constitution."

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May 9, 2019, 3:54 PM

Unconstitutional...yes, wrong...yes. All I was stating is that more innocent Japanese Americans would have lost their lives to violence across the U.S at the hands of angry Americans with their hearts full of revenge if something hadn’t been done. I agree. It is wrong that it happened and it was unconstitutional, but it was the correct decision to isolate.

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Would angry Americans have murdered .........


May 9, 2019, 4:17 PM

.......Japanese Americans at the same rate they murdered German Americans?

Don't try to justify the incarceration of the Japanese as something done for their own good.

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Re: Would angry Americans have murdered .........


May 9, 2019, 6:35 PM

Wake up Harley, The Germans were on the same side as the Japanese but they didn't Bomb Pearl Harbor. The hate in the U.S. at the time was much worse for the Japanese. And the German Americans could blend in a little better than the Japanese Americans could being that they were from European descent. Droves of German Americans changed their names during and after the war out of fear. The camps were a tough decision to make and wasn't a great moment in our history. But I also believe in a Cruel way it definitely saved lives, even if that wasn't the major motive for incarcerating them to begin with.


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this is true


May 9, 2019, 9:07 PM

People forget now but during WW2 the focus of most of the American anger was at the Japanese because of Pearl Harbor. There was some truly despicable propaganda spread throughout the country about Japanese people (and vice versa about the Americans in Japan).

The ire of the war did not shift focus to the Nazis until after it was over when the full scale of the Holocaust atrocity was uncovered and revealed.

Nothing can fully excuse the interment of the American Japanese but keep in mind how warped the world was at the time. WW2 changed everything and every country involved did drastic things. Our interment camps may have been the least extreme out of all.

Everyone knows about the holocaust,

the Soviets (our ally at the time) killed untold thousands of Polish and put them in mass graves deep in the forest, not to mention their soldiers raped up to a million German women on the march to Berlin, (UK and US soldiers also raped German and French women)

the Japanese did human bio weapon experimentation on Chinese people in camps as well as kill many civilians in Southeast Asia,

the British forces intentionally starved large groups of people in the Middle East and Persia,

Italy slaughtered people in Ethiopia,

Spain was involved in their own blood letting civil war with several war crimes and on it went.

Nobody came out of WW2 smelling like a rose.

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Re: this is true


May 9, 2019, 9:28 PM

We were killing Dachunds here in the US to show how patriotic we were during WW1. We used to do some crazy stuff. I own a Dachshund so to me it seems nuts.

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Definitely Not Germans***


May 9, 2019, 4:28 PM



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Re: Definitely Not Germans***


May 9, 2019, 5:55 PM

Yes, not Germans.

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My heroes are the ones who didn’t get sent to


May 9, 2019, 7:40 PM

internment or POW camps.

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Re: My heroes are the ones who didn’t get sent to


May 9, 2019, 7:46 PM

needs to banned immediately, can not pick and choose who may be a hero

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Re: Let this fella be a lesson to all of us on Tnet who are


May 9, 2019, 8:35 PM

I'm not easily offended but I have an easy time offending people on tigernet

***proceeds to start thread on why Brad Brownell is the best basketball coach in school history***

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