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Interesting Op-Ed today by George Conway
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Interesting Op-Ed today by George Conway


Apr 19, 2019, 11:23 AM

A life long Republican and Husband to WH Advisor Kelly Anne Conway.


George Conway: Trump is a cancer on the presidency. Congress should remove him.

By George T. Conway III
April 18 at 8:09 PM


So it turns out that, indeed, President Trump was not exonerated at all, and certainly not “totally” or “completely,” as he claimed. Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III didn’t reach a conclusion about whether Trump committed crimes of obstruction of justice — in part because, while a sitting president, Trump can’t be prosecuted under long-standing Justice Department directives, and in part because of “difficult issues” raised by “the President’s actions and intent.” Those difficult issues involve, among other things, the potentially tricky interplay between the criminal obstruction laws and the president’s constitutional authority, and the difficulty in proving criminal intent beyond a reasonable doubt.

Still, the special counsel’s report is damning. Mueller couldn’t say, with any “confidence,” that the president of the United States is not a criminal. He said, stunningly, that “if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state.” Mueller did not so state.

That’s especially damning because the ultimate issue shouldn’t be — and isn’t — whether the president committed a criminal act. As I wrote not long ago, Americans should expect far more than merely that their president not be provably a criminal. In fact, the Constitution demands it.

[George Terwilliger: William Barr did this nation a great service. He shouldn’t be attacked. ]

The Constitution commands the president to “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.” It requires him to affirm that he will “faithfully execute the Office of President” and to promise to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution.” And as a result, by taking the presidential oath of office, a president assumes the duty not simply to obey the laws, civil and criminal, that all citizens must obey, but also to be subjected to higher duties — what some excellent recent legal scholarship has termed the “fiduciary obligations of the president.”

Fiduciaries are people who hold legal obligations of trust, like a trustee of a trust. A trustee must act in the beneficiary’s best interests and not his own. If the trustee fails to do that, the trustee can be removed, even if what the trustee has done is not a crime.

So too with a president. The Constitution provides for impeachment and removal from office for “Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.” But the history and context of the phrase “high Crimes and Misdemeanors” makes clear that not every statutory crime is impeachable, and not every impeachable offense need be criminal. As Charles L. Black Jr. put it in a seminal pamphlet on impeachment in 1974, “assaults on the integrity of the processes of government” count as impeachable, even if they are not criminal.

[The Post’s View: The Mueller report is the opposite of exoneration ]

And presidential attempts to abuse power by putting personal interests above the nation’s can surely be impeachable. The president may have the raw constitutional power to, say, squelch an investigation or to pardon a close associate. But if he does so not to serve the public interest, but to serve his own, he surely could be removed from office, even if he has not committed a criminal act.

By these standards, the facts in Mueller’s report condemn Trump even more than the report’s refusal to clear him of a crime. Charged with faithfully executing the laws, the president is, in effect, the nation’s highest law enforcement officer. Yet Mueller’s investigation “found multiple acts by the President that were capable of executing undue influence over law enforcement investigations.”

Trump tried to “limit the scope of the investigation.” He tried to discourage witnesses from cooperating with the government through “suggestions of possible future pardons.” He engaged in “direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony.” A fair reading of the special counsel’s narrative is that “the likely effect” of these acts was “to intimidate witnesses or to alter their testimony,” with the result that “the justice system’s integrity [was] threatened.” Page after page, act after act, Mueller’s report describes a relentless torrent of such obstructive activity by Trump.

Contrast poor Richard M. Nixon. He was almost certainly to be impeached, and removed from office, after the infamous “smoking gun” tape came out. On that tape, the president is heard directing his chief of staff to get the CIA director, Richard Helms, to tell the FBI “don’t go any further into this case” — Watergate — for national security reasons. That order never went anywhere, because Helms ignored it.

[Jennifer Rubin: Five questions that still need to be answered in the Mueller report]

Other than that, Nixon was mostly passive — at least compared to Trump. For the most part, the Watergate tapes showed that Nixon had “acquiesced in the cover-up” after the fact. Nixon had no advance knowledge of the break-in. His aides were the driving force behind the obstruction.

Trump, on the other hand, was a one-man show. His aides tried to stop him, according to Mueller: “The President’s efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests.”

As for Trump’s supposed defense that there was no underlying “collusion” crime, well, as the special counsel points out, it’s not a defense, even in a criminal prosecution. But it’s actually unhelpful in the comparison to Watergate. The underlying crime in Watergate was a clumsy, third-rate burglary in an election campaign that turned out to be a landslide.

The investigation that Trump tried to interfere with here, to protect his own personal interests, was in significant part an investigation of how a hostile foreign power interfered with our democracy. If that’s not putting personal interests above a presidential duty to the nation, nothing is.

White House counsel John Dean famously told Nixon that there was a cancer within the presidency and that it was growing. What the Mueller report disturbingly shows, with crystal clarity, is that today there is a cancer in the presidency: President Donald J. Trump.

Congress now bears the solemn constitutional duty to excise that cancer without delay.

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Amazing when "serving the public interest" is interpreted as


Apr 19, 2019, 11:27 AM

undoing the results of a democratic election.

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not even gonna read it.


Apr 19, 2019, 11:30 AM

He might be right for all I know, and I don't mind contrary opinions, but this guy is a clown. He's famous for his spouse and for acting like a woman scorned after not getting an appointment he clearly expected.

This guy is the Kato Caitlin of the political world---the media's made a star out of him for no legitimate reason and I honestly care more about what the lunge's most ardent Trump-haters think about Trump than what this guy does. Screw this guy, his 15 minutes were up long ago.

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Speaking of a woman scorned, I give you:


Apr 19, 2019, 11:32 AM



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Kellyanne says he withdrew his name from the position


Apr 19, 2019, 3:21 PM [ in reply to not even gonna read it. ]

and Trump isn't known for telling the truth, but then again, Kellyanne isn't either so who knows who is telling the truth. But at this point, seeing the results of working for Trump, why would anyone feel like they were scorned for not getting the chance of working with Trump? If anything, he should feel relieved, right?

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Here are the facts.


Apr 19, 2019, 4:16 PM

The guy is way, way more emotionally invested in the topic than most around him.

He’s a husband first, and a politically engaged lawyer second. He’s acting in a way that is embarrassing to his spouse, in full realization of said embarrassment.

He’s either butthurt about the appointment, or Trump porked KAC. Flip a coin—probably 50/50 of being right.

If he loves his wife and is morally outraged about Trump, be bites his lip until she’s out of the administration.

If his wife is the issue, and he’s morally outraged, divorce her and rant all you want.

This staying together with her due to her political connections and using them to get his opinion amplified is the mark of a self-serving puzzee. Washington has enough of those already and most of them at least offer me a whit of insight that makes them semi-interesting, which is more than you can say about old George.

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Not sure I'd call those facts


Apr 19, 2019, 4:55 PM

and you seem to really have an emotional response to the guy which I don't share (one way or the other) so I'll leave you to it.

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The first two were the facts. You disagree?


Apr 19, 2019, 5:18 PM

And I thought we were having a polite discussion. Didn’t know you were going to pull out the standard gotcha “omg you’re emotional” over something that I’m pretty matter of fact about, but whatevs, have a good one.

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Yes, they're not facts.


Apr 19, 2019, 5:52 PM

"The guy is way, way more emotionally invested in the topic than most around him." This might be true, but I don't know all those around him. How are we measuring "emotionally invested?" And do you not see the irony is saying "omg you're emotional" is a "gotcha" after doing the exact same thing here?

He’s a husband first, and a politically engaged lawyer second. He’s acting in a way that is embarrassing to his spouse, in full realization of said embarrassment. Do we know how his behavior is being taken by his spouse? Seems like you are assuming, based on how you are perceiving his behavior (that it's embarrassing to you) that she would feel the same way. Why would her behavior not be embarrassing to him? Why are you only judging him? Again, this falls well under what I would call a "fact."

The only facts I see in these two are that he and Kellyanne are married and that he is a lawyer. The rest is just your interpretation of the situation. You disagree?

(you have a good one too, O)

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oh, and I didn't mean the emotional thing as a slight


Apr 19, 2019, 6:01 PM

I was just trying to say that you really seemed to dislike the guy and I didn't care about him one way or the other. I didn't want to come off as wanting to defend the guy and start a long drawn out conversation (especially on a Friday) where it seemed like I wanted to play the part of defending him. Sorry, it came off as calling you emotional. Not my intention.

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Re: not even gonna read it.


Apr 20, 2019, 12:06 PM [ in reply to not even gonna read it. ]

Self censorship isn't usually a means to knew information. Cato Kaelin? Not hardly, those on the right (Fox) may see him that way but the rest of the world doesn't.

Also, Trump lied about Conway being turned down for a job, it was Conway who turned Trump down.

So much for your characterization of a man whom you seem to know little about. That is the right's modus operandi...attack the credibility of those who write things that they don't like.

In fairness, some on the left probably do it too. I just don't see so blatantly.

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President Donald Trump on Wednesday attacked George Conway, the husband of White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, and claimed that Conway was bitter because the president refused to employ him in his administration.

“George Conway, often referred to as Mr. Kellyanne Conway by those who know him, is VERY jealous of his wife’s success and angry that I, with her help, didn’t give him the job he so desperately wanted,” the president wrote on Twitter. “I barely know him but just take a look, a stone cold LOSER and husband from hell!”


However, a letter sent by Conway to Trump in May 2017 shows that Trump is lying about what really happened.

The letter, which was obtained by the Washington Post, backs up Conway’s claim that he was the one who turned down a position at the Justice Department, not the other way around.

“I am profoundly grateful to you and to the Attorney General for selecting me to serve as Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Division of the Department of Justice,” Conway wrote to Trump in the letter. “I have reluctantly concluded, however, that, for me and my family, this is not the right time for me to leave the private sector and take on a new role in the federal government.”

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Where did you go run and hide for three weeks?


Apr 19, 2019, 4:47 PM

-Tesla

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I've been wrong two times, but this isn't one of them.


Re: Where did you go run and hide for three weeks?


Apr 20, 2019, 12:49 PM

Moms skirt?

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Actually no.


Apr 20, 2019, 2:54 PM

He did not run and hide.

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Thanks for the reply.


Apr 20, 2019, 6:02 PM

Butter must be blocking/ignoring my posts, like a #####.

-Doc

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I've been wrong two times, but this isn't one of them.


Re: Interesting Op-Ed today by George Conway


Apr 20, 2019, 11:59 AM

This isn’t interesting

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