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Oculus Spirit [82946]
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110%er [7018]
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He'd have to start running pretty fast
Mar 4, 2019, 5:09 PM
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to the left to have a chance for a dem nomination.
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we'll see...recent polling indicates...
Mar 5, 2019, 7:58 AM
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that 51% of dem voters want the party to move more to the middle and 40% want it to move more to the left. Question is who shows up to vote in primaries and who gives money.
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Re: we'll see...recent polling indicates...
Mar 5, 2019, 8:56 AM
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That 51% has the majority, but you can assume those are reasonable, normal people who have very active lives outside of politics.
The problem is, they are up against:
That 40%, who are miserable, angry, ignorant, and uninformed, who comprise of the loudest, most obnoxious, most violent, and most militant political demographic in the country who call Trump supporters nazis and throw violent protest-tantrums when they dont get their way. They have no life outside of this immature, angry political identity, and their life revolves around going to the polls once every 4 years, and ranting vitriol online. This demographic is much more active and always shows up to vote, and they are the reason places like California are going down the toilet with ridiculous laws and elected officials, or why AOC is in Congress.
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Oculus Spirit [82946]
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Maybe 10% of the total 40% are like that.***
Mar 5, 2019, 1:07 PM
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Maybe it could be almost the opposite of the 2016 Pub nom
Mar 5, 2019, 9:42 AM
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In 2016, you had a gaggle of fairly similar candidates, and one very dissimilar one. The gaggle split up the vote of the majority of the party, and the extreme one ended up getting the nomination.
In 2020 for the Democrats, maybe if there's a large number of more extreme-left candidates, maybe they will split the vote and open the door for just one more moderate candidate.
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Oculus Spirit [82946]
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There will be at least two moderate candidates.
Mar 5, 2019, 1:10 PM
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Hickenlooper and Montana Gov. Bullock.
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110%er [7018]
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And together they equal the personality of a wet sponge.
Mar 5, 2019, 4:07 PM
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People that vote in primaries are the most motivated. The people that vote in the democratic primaries won't even glance at either of these two. They might as well be republicans to them. Just my take on it of course.
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Oculus Spirit [82946]
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Wish I was as smart as you. I would never in my wildest
Mar 5, 2019, 4:39 PM
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dreams think a Barack Hussein Obama would be nominated, much less win.
Same with Trump. I said he was finished when he made the statement about McCain. Then, he went and made hundreds of nutty statements and still won.
I’m not very good at this. Since you are, tell me who will win the dem nomination and we will write it down. Heck, give me two names.
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110%er [7018]
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I have no idea... No one I've wanted to win has won
Mar 6, 2019, 9:38 AM
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in a really really long time. Every time I think the electorate couldn't get any dumber we prove me wrong.
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110%er [7018]
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Who is John Dickenlicker?***
Mar 4, 2019, 5:19 PM
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Re: Who is John Dickenlicker?***
Mar 4, 2019, 6:17 PM
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Your nickname in college?
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Wonder if he has a chance to win the Democratic primary
Mar 5, 2019, 7:34 AM
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If it's anything like the Republican primary, and I bet it is, he's going to have to be more extreme in his stances to win it.
I bet he'd smoke the President in the national election, though.
He would not get my vote, though, as he thinks it's OK to kill children.
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Re: Wonder if he has a chance to win the Democratic primary
Mar 5, 2019, 7:51 AM
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Could he believe that it’s not “ok”, but recognizes that personal responsibility should Trump is own belief. That maybe many others do not feel the same as him, however on policy matters he goes Pro Choice so that he can serve better? What if all his other policies and interests were center and more independent than any others, you would still not consider him a viable candidate?
If that is the fact, then you will never be able to vote.
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All-In [26968]
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No.
Mar 5, 2019, 7:56 AM
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What if he believes, personally, it's not OK to kill 14-year olds, but recognizes that other people should be able to decide for themselves if they should or not? Would you vote for such a person?
As a side, you seem to think I want a person whose policies are "center" and "independent". I'd much prefer someone with very conservative stances, and plan to vote accordingly. So even if he were against the murder of children, there's a good chance he still wouldn't get my vote.
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Re: No.
Mar 5, 2019, 8:04 AM
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Prod, currently is is against the law to kill a 14 year old so your point is moot.
Message was edited by: tigermanac®
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We're talking about character of a candidate.
Mar 5, 2019, 8:06 AM
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Just so we are clear, is it your position, when judging someone's character, that it doesn't matter what they think about murdering people, because it is already illegal?
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CU Medallion [59967]
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Re: We're talking about character of a candidate.
Mar 5, 2019, 8:15 AM
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Not what I am saying at all. You are playing on words.
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All-In [26968]
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I'm not playing on words, I just asked a question.
Mar 5, 2019, 8:39 AM
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You answered "no," which is good. I do not understand your position, though, so if you clarified, that would help me.
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Re: And I vote in every Presidential election...
Mar 5, 2019, 8:01 AM
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So being insignificant in the process isn’t a problem for you. Got it.
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All-In [26968]
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My vote counts the same amount as everyone else's.
Mar 5, 2019, 8:03 AM
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Is it your position that unpopular opinions are insignificant opinions?
How popular must an opinion of mine be, before it is no longer insignificant?
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Re: My vote counts the same amount as everyone else's.
Mar 5, 2019, 8:14 AM
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If you were out and about canvassing and donating or even politically active in a Green Party or some kind of Conservative PAC, no it’s not as insignificant. However if you just show up on voting day and vote for the 3rd party, yes, it’s insignificant.
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All-In [26968]
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OK.***
Mar 5, 2019, 8:38 AM
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Oculus Spirit [80892]
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Hmmm - wasn't CO one of the 1st states to legalize weed?***
Mar 5, 2019, 12:35 PM
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Oculus Spirit [82946]
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I think the first one.***
Mar 5, 2019, 1:05 PM
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Re: Gotdam Straight! A democratic centrist enters the race.
Mar 5, 2019, 4:27 PM
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Ill read up on him but I like what Gabbard has said so far but she will never get the nomination. I guess it’s third party or write in for the 4th time in a roll for me.
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We need reform more than moderation.***
Mar 5, 2019, 5:08 PM
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Re: Gotdam Straight! A democratic centrist enters the race.
Mar 5, 2019, 9:47 PM
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I trust him about as far as I can throw him
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Re: Gotdam Straight! A democratic centrist enters the race.
Mar 6, 2019, 9:33 AM
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IDK, wait until trump gets a hold of his last name and brands him hickypooper. It will be all over of him.
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