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Ol' APM is saying nuts to Dave Ramsey and going debt crazy.
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Ol' APM is saying nuts to Dave Ramsey and going debt crazy.


Sep 18, 2018, 10:27 AM

Well, not really, but by my standards I am.

Pulled the trigger on the '15 Camry yesterday. Mrs. PAW and I are going to look at a house today.

And no, I could not pay cash for either.

Oh well.

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Man, I could have given you a whale of a deal on a '12


Sep 18, 2018, 10:28 AM

Camry.

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why didn't you say anything?


Sep 18, 2018, 10:32 AM

j/k - wanted one 2-3 old. This one still has 2 years and 30K of warranty left on it. I think I did well.

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You probably made out.


Sep 18, 2018, 10:34 AM

I'd take nothing short of $8500 for mine. Now to find a sucker.

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RYANADIDAS WOULD BE A COMPLETE IDIOT TO BUY YOUR CAR.


Sep 18, 2018, 10:42 AM

Now, we wait.





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Re: RYANADIDAS WOULD BE A COMPLETE IDIOT TO BUY YOUR CAR.


Sep 18, 2018, 10:46 AM



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Bears can climb faster than they can run.***


Sep 18, 2018, 10:51 AM



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That's why I'm in the outhouse in this video


Sep 18, 2018, 10:58 AM

because bears #### in the woods according to many other metaphors that are obviously answered with yes.

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I'LL GIVE YOU $10K FOR IT!


Sep 18, 2018, 11:31 AM [ in reply to RYANADIDAS WOULD BE A COMPLETE IDIOT TO BUY YOUR CAR. ]

Not a penny less!!!!


Gimme gimme gimme!!!


actually wife-of is pulling the trigger on the explorer sport as we speak. it's pretty pretty nice.

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The Explorer Sport is actually an awesome vehicle.


Sep 18, 2018, 12:15 PM

For your mechanic, I mean. Now his kid can DEFINITELY afford to go to college.

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Re: The Explorer Sport is actually an awesome vehicle.


Sep 18, 2018, 12:23 PM

Well if I am the mechanic that works on it, does that mean that my boy can go to college?


WOOHOO!!!!

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Universal Technical Institute


Sep 18, 2018, 12:36 PM

will be the best 4 years of his life!

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I'll even deliver it for that price.***


Sep 18, 2018, 12:18 PM [ in reply to I'LL GIVE YOU $10K FOR IT! ]



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Is it a truck? Is it an SUV? Actually it's


Sep 18, 2018, 1:05 PM [ in reply to I'LL GIVE YOU $10K FOR IT! ]

an abombination.

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Mauldawg bought a Hyundai a month ago


Sep 18, 2018, 10:31 AM

zettner

Straight cash, homey

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Unnnngh!!! Did you throw dem hundies down on the hood?***


Sep 18, 2018, 10:33 AM



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Re: Mauldawg bought a Hyundai a month ago


Sep 18, 2018, 10:43 AM [ in reply to Mauldawg bought a Hyundai a month ago ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtXLCg08bcI

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If you wait to buy a house you can afford to buy in cash


Sep 18, 2018, 10:40 AM

you will have wasted so much money on rent you could have paid for the house sooner.

Debt isn't always a bad thing. As long as your money is making more than the interest you're paying, you're leveraging your debt and putting your money to work.

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Well, neither a car nor a house meet those criteria.


Sep 18, 2018, 11:01 AM

Cars depreciate the day you buy them and the historic return on houses is about 2%.

But sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.

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WTH is someone buying a house that only makes 2%?***


Sep 18, 2018, 11:08 AM



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Maybe taking in any repairs that would have to happen.***


Sep 18, 2018, 11:12 AM



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Maintenance and taxes.***


Sep 18, 2018, 11:25 AM



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acknowledging that Zillow Zestimates are junk in general


Sep 18, 2018, 12:22 PM [ in reply to WTH is someone buying a house that only makes 2%?*** ]

the zestimate on our house has gone up a squeak under 35% in the (exactly) 10 months that we've owned it.

Redfin's estimate is another $20k above Zillow's

This was expecting, and one of the reasons we pulled the trigger on THAT house, specifically, when we did.

2%....

Ain't nobody got time for that

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Man, just sell now and pay capital gains.


Sep 18, 2018, 1:01 PM

Market is bound to crash before 2 years is up.

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This house is part of my retirement.


Sep 18, 2018, 1:13 PM

I'm not joking.

I plan to stay in it as long as I can, then sell and move somewhere cheaper.

As long as the northern part of the country is creating rich refugees who move down here, it's value will still appreciate.

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I am predicting some 2008 level crashing around


Sep 18, 2018, 1:20 PM

here just moments after I buy a place.

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Hurry up and buy.


Sep 18, 2018, 1:22 PM

I'd like to buy a condo/rental place for my mother, but around here they cost more than houses in most locations.

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that's literally what happened to us


Sep 18, 2018, 1:25 PM [ in reply to I am predicting some 2008 level crashing around ]

bought in may '08,
LilGuar#1 borned in July '08
Kicked our first-ever tenants out the following day, after only 2 months...rental was empty til October
SheGUAR got laid-off in August
I got laid off following January
declining 'values' of both houses made them both unsellable

Can't wait for the next one!

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it's been discussed....but only to put profits towards


Sep 18, 2018, 1:17 PM [ in reply to Man, just sell now and pay capital gains. ]

building, which doesn't really help the whole market crash thingy

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You know you only have to pay capital gains if...


Sep 18, 2018, 1:25 PM [ in reply to Man, just sell now and pay capital gains. ]

From the google:

If you sell your home, you may exclude up to $250,000 of your capital gain from tax -- or up to $500,000 for married couples. You probably know that, if you sell your home, you may exclude up to $250,000 of your capital gain from tax. For married couples filing jointly, the exclusion is $500,000.

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And, to avoid the capital gains


Sep 18, 2018, 1:26 PM

1031 exchange. If you sell rental or investment property, you can avoid capital gains and depreciation recapture taxes by rolling the proceeds of your sale into a similar type of investment within 180 days. This like-kind exchange is called a 1031 exchange after the relevant section of the tax code.

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This only works on investment property


Sep 18, 2018, 9:44 PM

not your personal residence.

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I thought that there was a timeframe assoc'd with it


Sep 18, 2018, 1:26 PM [ in reply to You know you only have to pay capital gains if... ]

i dunno, never sold a house

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If you net more than $500k...


Sep 18, 2018, 1:28 PM

https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/And-to-avoid-the-capital-gains-24066984

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Have to live in your house 2 of the last 5 years


Sep 18, 2018, 9:45 PM [ in reply to I thought that there was a timeframe assoc'd with it ]

to get the exclusion .

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I did not know that. Or maybe I learned that when I sold my


Sep 18, 2018, 1:46 PM [ in reply to You know you only have to pay capital gains if... ]

old place. I had to hold for 3 years due to taking the goverments $8,000. Pretty sure I put it on the market a month or so after I was clear of that. I probably was too anxious to sell.


Since I used part of that $8,000 to pay off credit card balance and haven't had to pay any interest on a credit card since, I figure I came out okay.

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Last house I bought for $138.5K. Sold for $168K


Sep 18, 2018, 11:30 AM [ in reply to Well, neither a car nor a house meet those criteria. ]

Market timing and location is critical.

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Dave Ramsey doesn't tell people to wait to buy a house...


Sep 18, 2018, 11:06 AM [ in reply to If you wait to buy a house you can afford to buy in cash ]

with cash, fwiw

He does say to build up a good down-payment and go with a 15 yr mortgage with payment that doesn't exceed 25% of your take-home pay, which is good advice.

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His only advice that I have a real problem with is college


Sep 18, 2018, 11:10 AM

tuition.

There's simply no way someone who has no money can work "part time" and save enough money to pay tuition--probably not even at a tech school at this point.

I think its an excellent idea, but just not realistic.

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Not any more at least.


Sep 18, 2018, 11:20 AM

I chose the cheapest college I could find. Didn't live on campus. Had a part time job that I saved every dime I possibly could. Life scholarship. Came out 6k in the hole.

Same college today has tripled their tuition since I graduated.

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I like your funny words magic man


And even if the student does two years at local tech school


Sep 18, 2018, 11:27 AM

and transfer to a university. According to the google, the aversge tuition is $9,970 for state residents at public colleges, and $25,620 for out-of-state residents attending public universities.

I don't know any "part time" jobs that pay enough that someone may be able to save that much after living expenses to pay that. Certainly no part time jobs for someone who doesn't have a college degree. Most 18 years olds don't have that much to offer an employer.

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I know a guy who actually made money with his part time


Sep 18, 2018, 12:27 PM

job while in school, and paid for his school. Granted, a lot of that money he made had to go to legal fees about a year after he graduated when he got caught. If he hadn't been stupid and called it quits after he got a 'real job', he'd be golden right now.

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Male escort??***


Sep 18, 2018, 12:29 PM



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Haven't listened to him in a while, but I think....


Sep 18, 2018, 11:29 AM [ in reply to His only advice that I have a real problem with is college ]

his advice is to do what you can afford...and that might mean working a full-time job and taking classes at night, delaying college for a couple of years, etc...

A lot of personal variables in that kind of thing, so tough to make a blanket statement. However, some of these kids coming out with a 4-year degree and massive debt levels doesn't make a lot of sense. Some of these kids are making what amounts to mortgage payment on a 1st house, but just in debt service to student loans. Set's them back 10+ yrs financially.

It's a big topic, but I sure agree with his general philosophy to minimize debt (well he is no debt at all).

I came out of Clemson with $2k in student load debt and I remember thinking that was too high at the time. Parents paid for my 1st year and I co-op'ed after that and could live in Athens co-op'ing and save enough to pay for next semester at Clemson. Of course all of that has changed with tuition being much more expensive now.

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congrats on the Camry. Looking for a house in Botetourt?


Sep 18, 2018, 10:51 AM

come on out, it's great.

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Not if it means buying yours. I want you to stay in SWVA.***


Sep 18, 2018, 11:02 AM



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i got one in the heart of roanoke city i'll sell you***


Sep 18, 2018, 11:11 AM



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Casa de crack? I thought you was only an Indiana slumlord?***


Sep 18, 2018, 11:27 AM



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Don't know about the current Camrys, but


Sep 18, 2018, 12:57 PM

I have a 1997 Camry I bought new that I still drive daily. Has 216,000+ miles on it, but still runs great.

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can't go wrong with the Camry, I bought one myself today


Sep 18, 2018, 10:27 PM

small world.

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A drunk will run a STOP sign, but a stoner will wait for it to turn green.


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