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Count Chocula is full of it...again (I hope!)

Feb 21, 2019, 3:32 PM

Kiper's takes kill me sometimes.

By his own admission, Renfrow compares to "Wes Welker, Danny Amendola, and Adam Humphries"...all guys who started countless games in the NFL for years.

I actually think Renfrow is better than any of those guys coming out of college, by the way. He was just embarrassing people at the Senior Bowl, nobody could remotely cover him all week. But whatever, I agree. Seems accurate.

And then Kiper goes on to say Renfrow probably won't be drafted.

This makes me groan, because it means either Kiper is a moron, or the entire NFL is. Yes, yes, yes, we know how much NFL scouts love their measuring tapes and stopwatches, and we know Renfrow won't measure well in those regards...but he isn't what he is because he runs a 4.3 or because he can leap over the moon, he is what he is because of his letter-perfect routes and ability to fake whoever's covering him right out of his jock. You could literally target Renfrow 20 times a game at 10 yards a pop if you cared to and he'd get you your 200 yards, and there's very little anybody could do about it.

That's an "undrafted rookie free agent"? Really? Where is it written that you aren't allowed to draft arguably the most productive receiver in the draft because he doesn't run fast? Are NFL scouts really that unable to adapt to the obvious?

On third down Renfrow pretty much automatic. Anybody looking for Clemson's Secret Sauce ever since Dabo took over need look no further than our slots. Starting with the original Dabo #13, Curtis Baham, we have had a slot who was uncoverable on third downs ever since Dabo got here...and not coincidentally, throughout all that time, Clemson has had the ability to move the chains virtually at will. That's been something we can do, throughout Dabo's tenure, that nobody could take away - nobody.

And whatever his measureables, Renfrow's been the best #13 Clemson has ever had. Which is saying something, when you consider the likes of Baham, Humphries, and Tyler Grisham....

So how on Earth is that a "rookie free agent?" Deshaun Watson is literally going to scream out loud every Houston draft pick that goes by that isn't Renfrow.

I don't get it. I really don't.

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Hunter is small, with little bulk and small hands. He’s more quick than fast. He regressed a bit in production during his senior season. Good hands, but tends to catch with his body.

Good body control. Great route runner/change of direction. Very smart player. Small, but physical. Good blocker. Max effort player.

Overall, Hunter will struggle vs press coverage. His lack of speed means he is likely a possession receiver. He will need to play with an accurate QB because his catch radius is smaller than most. High effort and smart WR who will contribute on special teams by competing for the 4/5th WR spot. (You don’t waste a high pick on 4-5 WR.)

It’s not that Hunter can’t make in the NFL. It’s that when you start to compare players you have to honest. Where does Hunter rank in the Clemson family? Would any of us take him over Nuk? Sammy? Mike Williams? How about Martavis or even Charone Peake? Deon Cain?

You might feel self-righteous saying “I’d take 11 Hunter Fenfrows”, but I’d take 11 Deon Cains and whip your butt. Deon Cain is bigger, stronger, and faster(more productive.)

And I’m not sure why Clemson people get so butthurt when scouts and draft “experts” express their honest opinions. Tajh was a system QB who never even made a practice squad, but some of y’all decried the NFL as somehow being bias against the young man.

Count Chocula is full of it...again (I hope!)

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as much as I hate to say it...

Uhhh...Jamey Rootes***

Exactly--Jamey Rootes******

Wasn't Baham #18?

CB was 18 and he did have an impact, don't know how you

Re: Count Chocula is full of it...again (I hope!)

Re: Count Chocula is full of it...again (I hope!)

^^^^Ding ding ding***

It would actually benefit him if he wasn't drafted, then he

exactly - better to be a coveted non draftee than later rd.

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Did Kiper say that in the article? Nikki

All of those names you reference went undrafted

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Well, he sure ain't no Capt. Crunch for sure

It's not just Kiper - even though he may epitomize

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Renfrows only issue is putting on enough mass.

Let looks at this without orange glasses

You aren't comparing apples to apples. Those are wideouts

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