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You continue to impress...really....
Dec 29, 2021, 1:24 PM
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PCR tests showing a positive result...for a person that has had COVID...doesn't mean the test is bad.
Geez man...
Also, the CDC hasn't called for providing a negative test prior to returning to work/leaving isolation after being infected for a very long time (I'm not 100% sure they ever did...based on the guidance revisions I have archived).
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Oculus Spirit [79708]
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Given the freak outs around case counts that our policy
Dec 29, 2021, 1:29 PM
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makers and health officials are prone to, I think it's kind of a problem that people can pop positive 3 months after having it. Particularly when we have been encouraging mass testing.
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Most testing requirements factor in a previous positive...
Dec 29, 2021, 1:41 PM
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test.
For example, the OSHA ETS (and I'm not suggesting I favor it...I sure as heck don't) doesn't require weekly testing of unvaccinated employees if they have had a positive covid test within the last 90 days.
I don't know what the data says, but anecdotally, I've never heard of anyone that had COVID thinking that they have it again within 3 months of having it. Is that a common issue?
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There definitely seems to be an uptick in people who think/
Dec 29, 2021, 11:39 AM
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say they've gotten covid twice since August or so. Of course, the time frame between their first round and second may be greater than 3 months.
Throughout the holidays there were tons of people who got tested before and after visiting with family, I would be curious to see how much people who previously had covid skewed the case statistics that we're wanting to base a lot of public policy off of.
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No way to really know on the your last statement....
Dec 29, 2021, 1:54 PM
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I would think someone who had covid within the last 3 months wouldn't likely be someone that would test before and after visiting someone...but that's probably just based on what I would do/not do myself.
I think going by absolute case counts on a daily basis doesn't make sense. There are clear trends and the moving averages tell a little more than daily counts. Either way you slice it, more people are getting COVID right now than a month ago. It is 3 times more or 2.5 times more? Does it really matter in terms of policy/direction?
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Oculus Spirit [79708]
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I dunno, we live in the age of the hypochondriac
Dec 29, 2021, 2:12 PM
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People demanding negative covid tests for Christmas dinner wasn't exactly uncommon, my sister and her fiancé ended up not going to his side of the families get together over it. Did you see that mob in NYC that showed up for free tests? There's still a lot of hysteria out there.
I agree, 3 times more or 2.5 times more makes no difference. I personally think it's time to move on completely instead of doubling down on everything that didn't work in the first place. Mask/vaccine mandates, closing certain businesses, etc.
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Politicians tend to have a God complex
Dec 29, 2021, 2:14 PM
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I don't see that ending
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Were people asking for a negative test for ppl...that had...
Dec 29, 2021, 2:45 PM
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covid within the last 3 months?
Anyways, I'm with you partially on your last statement. I think we have to put a shut-down mentality behind us. I think reasonable mask rules still make sense. I think vaccines make a lot of sense, but don't think the federal government has any right to mandate them and the OSHA ETS is very misguided, not to mention a huge overstepping of federal power. There are really good reasons why such regulations shouldn't be anywhere near the federal level.
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In her case it was everyone, whether they had Covid, vaccine
Dec 29, 2021, 3:14 PM
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With the booster, or otherwise. This is in Anderson, SC so I’m sure it’s not an anomaly.
If a private business wants to require masks that’s their prerogative, but I think we need to stop pretending they make much, if any difference. Agree about the huge federal overreach.
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I think you need to stop pretending that masks...
Dec 29, 2021, 3:18 PM
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DON'T make any difference
But seriously, I think the data shows that they help keep infected people from spreading.
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Because delta spread more and we have so many unvaccinated..
Dec 29, 2021, 2:41 PM
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most for idiotic reasons.
Surely you don't dispute the clear data showing that the people dying this year from COVID are largely the unvaccinated, right?
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Half the country is vaccinated
Dec 29, 2021, 2:49 PM
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That alone should reduce the numbers.
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Look at the graph of vaccinations and the graph of....
Dec 29, 2021, 3:16 PM
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deaths.
US didn't hit 50% vaccination rate until July or so. The numbers of deaths are pretty heavily skewed to Jan/Feb...165,000 deaths from Jan 1 to Feb 27 and a total of about 468,000 deaths YTD.
Also, delta spread about 50% more than the alpha variant.
Are you really arguing that vaccinations aren't greatly reducing the death rate??
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Here's a picture that lays it all out pretty well...
Dec 29, 2021, 4:48 PM
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Entire thing is a scam. If PCR tests had been used in any
Dec 29, 2021, 4:49 PM
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year leading up to 2020, we would have had a "pandemic" of whatever nonsense they were testing for.
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