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Re: We discussed the new 4Runner yet?
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Apr 10, 2024, 7:26 AM
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Saw a little on these a few days ago. Wow, would love to have one. But, I would not be able to retire in a couple of years if I add that payment to my cost of living.
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Gonna go
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BACK in time!
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Re: We discussed the new 4Runner yet?
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Apr 10, 2024, 7:44 AM
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I would love to have one. However, I just can't justify paying what the price of new cars are now. The prices have gone crazy the last couple years. I guess I'm just an old tight wad.
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Probably one of the few cars Id consider buying new
Apr 10, 2024, 7:47 AM
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Since I know if I took care of it from birth with proper maintenance, it would likely outlive me.
Wouldn’t dream of one in year one though. Let all the crazies fight over the ones with over-sticker premiums.
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Get a GX Lexus for your legs!
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Apr 10, 2024, 7:46 AM
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I want to like those and the Land Cruiser
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Apr 10, 2024, 7:49 AM
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But it’s not working yet. They’re just flat out ugly. I hope they grow on me because I’m glad they are being built.
I have a buddy who is supposed to be getting his in June and weekly he sends me a pic and I have to put on my friend face and pretend it’s beautiful and amazing.
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After the initial wow shock wore off, I'm in this boat.***
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Apr 10, 2024, 8:38 AM
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Re: We discussed the new 4Runner yet?
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Apr 10, 2024, 7:49 AM
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I'm a little partial. But this is my favorite 4runner. Mine was black but you get the idea.
Get a nice view of the hidden "stuff" compartment. That rear seat container cut in the side pulled up. You could stash things in the frame underneath.
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My wifes first car too.
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Apr 10, 2024, 7:53 AM
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I’ve told the story a billion times but my FIL was the VP of marketing for Toyota NA in the late 70’s/early 80’s and pretty much conceptualized that truck and put together the case that convinced Japan to make them for us. He’s a great guy and world-class gearhead so it makes me even more partial to them.
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That was in good shape***
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Apr 10, 2024, 8:13 AM
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Pic probably from 1988 or 1989
Apr 10, 2024, 8:20 AM
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The house in the background burned down in 1991. And there is now a hedge 20 feet tall now where that basketball goal was. Pretty sure the pic was before I got the 4runner in 1992.
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Another pic of that 4runner. For the puppy lovers.
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this is why the roll down rear window is a requirement.***
Apr 10, 2024, 9:50 AM
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Apr 10, 2024, 12:28 PM
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First one above is color you should have gotten
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Have you driven a 4Runner in the last 10 years?
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Apr 10, 2024, 7:50 AM
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It's been a while for me, I think it was a new 19 or 20.
I thought it sucked. The driving part that is. Interior was meh also.
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Rented an Off-Road model 7-ish
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Apr 10, 2024, 7:55 AM
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Years ago for the Denver-Telluride trip and ended up doing a bunch of off-roading while we had it.
It was meh on the road and brilliant off-road. I’m guessing this one might be a little more civilized on the road now.
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I appreciate that they seem to have not gone the way of the Tahoe.
Apr 10, 2024, 8:16 AM
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I'm sure there are temptations to do such.
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That's the first I've seen photos of the new one.
Apr 10, 2024, 9:09 AM
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I do like that.
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read some last night. A lot similar to '24 Tacoma, as expected.
Apr 10, 2024, 9:40 AM
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2.4L turbo, 8-speed automatic. I'll go look when they ship, would prolly buy a 2 yr old '26 if my 2012 w/ almost 200K holds out. A lot of versions, I imagine I'd stick with Limited if similarly equiped, like with full time 4WD. Will also look at Land Cruiser, but gotta have that power roll down rear window.
https://www.caranddriver.com/toyota/4runner
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Wood***
Apr 10, 2024, 12:23 PM
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I've written the company headquarters numerous times with a suggestion for
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Apr 10, 2024, 12:24 PM
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the 5Runner, but so far it looks like I'm being ignored.
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The 5Runner is just a regular 4Runner with
Apr 10, 2024, 12:28 PM
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Prod in the driver seat
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Looks like a 4 door version of this
Apr 10, 2024, 1:40 PM
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Re: Looks like a 4 door version of this
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Assumed correctly.
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Apr 10, 2024, 1:42 PM
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I saw a little of that too in the front 3/4 view.
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I don't understand what Toyota is doing.
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Apr 10, 2024, 1:45 PM
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They have 5 trim levels on the 4runner. They have the new Land Cruiser that has 1" more wheel base, and the exact same driveline. They also have the Lexus that has the same drivetrain.
They are selling the same vehicle about 8 different ways.
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And on top of it they make the
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Apr 10, 2024, 1:51 PM
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Less expensive 4Runner look pretty darn good and the more expensive Land Cruiser look like the family truckster.
I also struggle to see the differentiation between the two, segment-wise.
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I always thought the Vehicross was a great idea.
Apr 10, 2024, 1:51 PM
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It never fell in my window of opportunity to actually buy one, but the concept of a solid off-roader that drove like a sports car on the pavement was pretty cool. I think Isuzu gave up on the idea too soon. It sure got rave reviews mechanically, and I think they could have gone somewhere with it but that type of vehicle wasn't what the public wanted at the time.
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A buddy of mine had one.
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Apr 10, 2024, 1:54 PM
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I rode in it once, and it was similar to riding in a wagon. A small wagon.
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Never drove one, but saw a few around town so I don't have any data to form
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Apr 10, 2024, 1:58 PM
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an opinion, but the marketing collateral sure made it sound like something I would have enjoyed driving. From what I've read, they were solid mechanically and I guess if it had lived up to the billing they would still be making them.
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I think they were pretty pricey for teh time
Apr 10, 2024, 5:20 PM
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And like I said, were really small inside. They made it for 4 years, so it had a decent run for something specialized.
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It had some next level technology in it for the time,
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Especially to have come from Isuzu who wasn’t exactly rolling in the dough then.
The torque on demand system was pretty revolutionary as I recall. They were one of, if not the first to pull off an AWD system that could vary the power split as needed in that manner.
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We had an Isuzu minivan that had 275k on it when we traded it.
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It was what we needed at the time, and I think it was in the shop once for a relatively minor issue. I always felt like Isuzu was an underrated badge. I know you loved your Trooper, and I knew a couple of folks who felt the same about their Troopers. A guy at work drove one to the office every day, I wanna say maybe like a 1997 model and he got rid of it sometime just after the quarantine was over for a 4Runner. He must have had a few hundred thousand on that one.
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Absolutely. I wish they were still around.
Apr 10, 2024, 2:12 PM
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Wasn’t that minivan you had just a rebadged first gen Honda Odyssey?
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The trooper was one of those cars that just drove well...
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It wasn't flashy or fast, but something about the ride, the clutch, the gear shift and the steering together made it just feel right to drive. Like GTI's, 3 series bmw's, and a number of other cars. You might find a car that checks off more objectively positive criteria, but it just doesn't feel right.
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