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How do the ACCCG tie-breakers work with 3+ teams?
Oct 15, 2023, 4:46 PM
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If all teams have two losses?
I read them briefly but still not clear in this scenario.
Say the following have 2 acc losses with and have wins and losses against the others:
Clemson (lost to Duke, beats UNC)
UNC (beats Duke, L to Clemson and FSU)
Duke (loss to unc and fsu, beat Clemson)
L’ville (lost to Pitt, and either Miami/Duke)
You can’t do straight up head to head in this scenario. Is it win% against common opponents? If so how do you calculate it??
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Re: How do the ACCCG tie-breakers work with 3+ teams?
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Oct 15, 2023, 4:54 PM
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There’s some scenarios that can make your brain hurt. One thing I’ll point out from your scenario is UNC does not play FSU. UNC remaining games are UVA, GT, Clemson , Dook, NC State. I think the Heels lose at Clemson but could possibly win the the rest. I’m a Tar Heel and that’s my honest assessment. We have a true opportunity to get to the championship game against FSU. Now will it happen? As a Tar Heel football fan I keep expecting our typical collapse and lose 3 in a row.
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Re: How do the ACCCG tie-breakers work with 3+ teams?
Oct 15, 2023, 5:09 PM
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I can see that scenario playing out. With the new wr y’all have it opens up a lot of options.
Wish we would’ve hit the portal for a big time wr!
We will get to see how good Dooks defense is when they play y’all.
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Re: How do the ACCCG tie-breakers work with 3+ teams?
Oct 15, 2023, 5:30 PM
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Yeah Walker is a huge get at WR. We just lost Paysour at WR for the season which stinks but still ok. Walker is just crazy fast at 4.2 in the 40.
I thin dook has a legit D. It’s hard to believe they are this good but I think they are. Heels and dook actually are about to play in a relevant football matchup. Not sure if that’s ever happened between those 2. Lol.
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4.2?***
Oct 15, 2023, 6:11 PM
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I will make it easy for you.
Oct 15, 2023, 5:08 PM
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We ain’t playing in the ACCCG.
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Re: I will make it easy for you.
Oct 15, 2023, 5:10 PM
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Ok in the scenario above why not Debbie Downer?
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Re: I will make it easy for you.
Oct 15, 2023, 5:50 PM
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Tar dog ? You gotta be kidding me!
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With tie, after head to head then
Oct 15, 2023, 11:20 PM
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If that does not exist it goes to the team’s winning percentage vs common opponents. ACC announced a new tie breaker system when they went away from divisions.
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Re: How do the ACCCG tie-breakers work with 3+ teams?
Oct 15, 2023, 11:30 PM
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Re: How do the ACCCG tie-breakers work with 3+ teams?
Oct 16, 2023, 8:55 AM
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Not sure if that is the two or three team tie breaker.
So say it’s 3 way tie and head to head is a not used since all teams haven’t played each other, win percent versus common opponents is calculated how? And if that’s tied?
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Re: How do the ACCCG tie-breakers work with 3+ teams?
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Oct 16, 2023, 9:58 AM
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1. H2H record if all tied teams are common opponents. In your example that is not the case. So it moves to the next one.
2. A team that defeated all of the other tied teams. In your exampl:
Clemson defeated UNC and lost to Duke so not them
UNC lost to Clemson so not them
Louisville did not play UNC or Clemson so not them
If Duke beats Louisville and UNC then they move on to the ACCG. If they lost to either it moves to the 3rd tie breaker
3. Win % vs all common opponents
Common opponents of all 4 teams are
NC State
The teams who beat NC State move on and it goes back to the top (I think), if all teams beat NC State it naturally goes to #4
4. Win % vs common opponents based upon their order of finish.
NC State is the only one so this one is the same as #3
5. Combined Win % of conference opponents. (doesn't specify conf win % or overall, i'm guessing conference %)
Clemson plays Duke, FSU, Syracuse, Wake, Miami, NC State, GT and UNC and their current combined win % is .522
UNC plays Pitt, Syracuse, Miami, Virginia, GT, Duke, Clemson, NC State and their current combined win % is .364
Duke plays Clemson, NC State, FSU, Louisville, Wake, UNC, Virginia, Pitt and their current combined win % is .538
Louisville plays GT, Boston College, NC State, Pitt, Duke, VT, Virginia, Miami and their current combined win % is .429
Duke would move on to the ACCCG at this moment. We need Louisville, Virginia and Pitt to keep on losing other than when we need them to beat UNC or Duke.
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