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First time ever, Dow closes above 40,000....
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First time ever, Dow closes above 40,000....

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May 17, 2024, 4:49 PM
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I know the Stock Market is not the economy.

But this is an expression of the market's confidence that the FED has engineered a soft landing on taming inflation without engineering a recession.

So, this is a good time to re-visit some basic publicly-known metrics that show the strength of the economy, and serve as a reminder that Joe Biden and his policies have pulled us out of the pandemic and the huge mess he inherited from his predecessor.

The Red Hats will hate this or deny it or pretend it means something bad. Because they hate the reality that the country didn't collapse under Biden, but in fact re-built itself.

Enjoy:

1) Unemployment below 4% for 27 months in a row, a historic run -

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UNRATE

2) The more expansive U-6 unemployment also at very low levels, currently at 6.9% -

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/U6RATENSA

3) Prime-Age Employment at its highest since 2001 -

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS12300060

4) Real Wages increasing faster than inflation, and especially strong for lower and medium-wage employees -

https://x.com/arindube/status/1755568054501609646/photo/1

5) GDP Growth faster than any of the other developed economies since the pandemic -

https://www.businessinsider.com/economy-us-gdp-inflation-federal-reserve-economic-growth-canada-germany-2024-1

6) US Oil/Gas production highest ever -

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mcrfpus2&f=m

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/hist/n9050us2a.htm

7) % of Uninsured Americans lowest ever -

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2023/08/03/new-hhs-report-shows-national-uninsured-rate-reached-all-time-low-2023-after-record-breaking-aca-enrollment-period.html

8) Inflation tamed, with underlying multi-variate core inflation currently at 2.6% -

https://www.newyorkfed.org/research/policy/mct#--:mct-inflation:trend-inflation

9) Manufacturing investment exploded -

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/C307RL1Q225SBEA

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Well

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May 17, 2024, 4:58 PM
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When you post a non-response response, that tells me you know I'm right****


May 17, 2024, 6:42 PM
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Uh huh...***


May 17, 2024, 6:45 PM
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It was very much a response. Two people got it.***

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May 17, 2024, 7:08 PM [ in reply to When you post a non-response response, that tells me you know I'm right**** ]
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Oh, I "got" your non-response....but it was substantively a non-response...***


May 17, 2024, 11:17 PM
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I didn't pay $300 at the grocery store until Biden was in office.


May 18, 2024, 9:21 AM
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That's substantive.

My same car costs 40% more now new. I could afford a pickup truck for my son before Biden. I could afford to sell and rebuy my house before Biden.

I'm not blaming any of that in Biden, but that's substantive.

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Brandon must have the highest approval rating ever..***

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May 17, 2024, 6:48 PM
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Re: First time ever, Dow closes above 40,000....

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May 17, 2024, 7:20 PM
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Economy has been pretty good for the upper middle income to upper income and the asset wealthy.

https://www.conference-board.org/topics/us-leading-indicators/press/us-lei-may-
2024#:~:text=The%20Leading%20Economic%20Index%20(LEI,current%20state%20of%20the%20economy.

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Given this, it's very telling that his approval numbers are so poor.***

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May 17, 2024, 8:14 PM
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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."
- H. L. Mencken


Re: Given this, it's very telling that his approval numbers are so poor.***

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May 17, 2024, 8:34 PM
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That's because most people can see he could stroke out at any moment, and his Vice is an empty pant suit.

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The Rich

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May 18, 2024, 1:14 AM
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...get richier.

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Re: First time ever, Dow closes above 40,000....

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May 18, 2024, 8:07 AM
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I know. Isn’t it just a freaking pity that the overwhelming majority of Americans just can’t understand the magnitude of the awesomeness of President Joe Biden and his economic policies.

It’s a messaging issue isn’t it?

He needs to fire KJP and get a better communicator as Press Secretary, but I guess firing a black lesbian with a French surname would be antithetical to the DEI mission.

Thanks for the communique. 4 more years baby.

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If Trump were President, most of you would say this is a great economy....


May 18, 2024, 8:27 AM
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I'm posting real numbers, not made up opinions from someone's anecdotes.

People on this board have decided they don't like Biden for other reasons, not because of the actual economy.

And I have no dog in the fight about a Press Secretary. KJP is as good as any other I've seen, and qualified for the job. Of course, you have to make her identity an issue, which is sad.

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Re: If Trump were President, most of you would say this is a great economy....


May 18, 2024, 9:08 AM
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I could care less about KJP’s sexual orientation, gender, color or background. However, if it’s a messaging issue as some of the Dems have claimed, perhaps firing KJP, the daily face of the Biden Administration would be a fine start?

However, facts being facts, she as a black lesbian with a French surname has a golden ticket to remain in her job, does she not?

No blow back for Joe if he shidcanned her?
Come on man!

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So, I post about the economy, and you try and turn this into a DEI conversation?


May 18, 2024, 9:23 AM
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Nice attempt to dodge. It makes you look like a run-of-the-mill MAGA virtue signaler.

By just about any measure, our economy is in very good shape.

You're not as partisan as many on this board. Look at the actual numbers. Can you at least admit that in fact, the economy has recovered from the pandemic, and that Biden deserves a large amount of credit? There's really no doubt about it at this point in the reality-based world.

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Re: So, I post about the economy, and you try and turn this into a DEI conversation?


May 18, 2024, 9:45 AM
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Look, Tig can speak for himself - but again, he's no MAGA shill. I personally would argue that Biden deserves credit mostly for damping down the daily crazy that made most of us dreading checking the news after 5pm to see what atrocity the Orange Menace had wrought today, but broader economic trends tend to be global.

Our resurgence is mostly because China is in free-fall and most Western industry leaders now know it, and the last vestiges of the Bretton Woods System that shaped globalism and the last 80 years of history are disintegrating.Basically, we turned the world into a giant shopping mall where anybody could trade with anybody else, and us playing the role of Mall Cop. People came to regard it as the world's "normal", but it absolutely isn't...the thing most people simply don't get is, globalism was not a permanent or sustainable model, it was always about keeping the world on our side against the Soviets and later on the Russians.

And that system is ending. Western companies are shortening their supply lines and reshoring industry on a vast scale at the moment, and that is bringing a flood of high-paying (and blue collar) manufacturing jobs back to the US...and incidentally, driving up wages even as the tech industry is radically scaling itself down.

The reasons China is collapsing before our eyes are manyfold and I won't get into them here, but it's a trend that's only going to accelerate. The world's cheap labor is moving now to Vietnam and Southeast Asia, and the US's foreign interests are pretty much devolving down to whoever the cheap labor source is at the moment plus Canada, Mexico, Australia, and Japan...though England will probably join our little family once they finally realize that now that they've Brexited there's no other game left.

But globalism as we've known it over the last 80 years is all but dead. And the US is going to profit hugely from it. We already are, actually. And this is what's happening to China...and that's on top of those dozens of so-called Ghost Cities that have literally 60+ million homes that will never be lived in.

https://youtu.be/4LKhertp1Kg

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Re: First time ever, Dow closes above 40,000....

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May 18, 2024, 9:21 AM [ in reply to Re: First time ever, Dow closes above 40,000.... ]
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Well, Biden is the worst communicator I have ever personally seen in the Oval Office.

A rather bright fella called Einstein once said that if you can't explain what you're doing, it isn't worth doing, and the little fact that communicating with the public that elected him is sort of Item #1 in the presidential job description makes that a pretty durn massive failing.

I loathe Trump with a visceral passion and would love to see him fired into the Sun on one of Elon's rockets - you know, for Science, and also because it would be incredibly funny to see him riding the thing like Slim Pickens in Dr. Strangelove - but the man certainly knew how to get his message out.



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May 18, 2024, 9:46 AM
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You sure are full of hate for someone you have and will never meet. Trump living rent free is appropriate.

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You and I agree on some of this....


May 18, 2024, 10:30 AM [ in reply to Re: First time ever, Dow closes above 40,000.... ]
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Biden is not a great communicator by any means. And Trump is an oustanding marketer.

But I think at some point, the reality of the economy has to get through to more people, even if they're not getting their information from Biden himself.

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"The communique"... Spot frickin' on!***


May 18, 2024, 11:52 AM [ in reply to Re: First time ever, Dow closes above 40,000.... ]
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